Henry Rollins

If I was gay, there would be no closet, you would never see the closet I came out of. Why? I would have burned it for kindling by the time I was 12. Because I know with all certainty in my mind, there is nothing wrong with being gay, and you know it.

You always know the mark of a coward. A coward hides behind freedom. A brave person stands in front of freedom and defends it for others.

Don’t hide behind the Constitution or the Bible. If you’re against gay marriage just be honest, put a scarlet ‘H’ on your shirt and say ‘I am a homophobe!’

 

45 thoughts on “Henry Rollins”

  1. Wow, what a self-righteous, overreaching bastard. Anybody not actively and enthusiastically endorsing the gay lifestyle is automatically evil. Right, dumbass.

    1. Not exactly. You don’t have to endorse the gay lifestyle. Just leave them alone. Seriously. Go for a walk. Eat a donut or something. Let people be themselves for themselves. It’s not like they’re trying to have their wedding in your back yard and then have rampant gay orgies in front of your kids.

      They’re just people out living their lives. Without you.

      If you hate them for that YOU ARE EVIL. Hating someone when they’ve done absolutely nothing to you is wrong and therefore evil.

      Mind your own business. Stop trying to force your beliefs on others.

      1. “Leave them alone”!
        Hell I didn’t demand a rainbow parade.
        I didn’t ask ANYONE what their sexuality was.
        I didn’t hatefully brand all conservatives evil. We’re not the ones writing brokeback scenes into every sitcom and movie made today.
        How about leaving us alone and keep your business to YOURself.

        1. So what your saying is that it is only okay for television and movies to depict straight relationships because gay relationships make you uncomfortable. That is pretty much the definition of homophobia. You saying that people who don’t believe as you do, don’t love as you do, are wrong and need to keep their lives a secret and that is not what America is about. If you don’t like what you are seeing then you are more than capable of turning it off or watching something else. It is hateful and evil to say that people cannot express their love or even talk about it because you don’t agree with it.

        2. Then when will the gay community stop pressuring organizations (Chick Fil A, the BSA, and many others)to change their policies or face boycotts and/or attacks?
          Other than that, I agree with you.

          1. I want to know if a business is implementing anti-GLBTIQ policies for it’s employees. GLBTIQ people are vulnerable. If a business is kind and respectful to all people I want to support them.

      2. Just leave them alone?

        How is this possible? And how are the gay “persecuted” when every facet of society (entertainment, media, government, education, many religions, fashion, pop culture) actively endorses the lifestyle?

        There is only one segment of society which does not pronounce gays to be fabulous–and by a great coincidence, that is the one segment that the other seek to beat down.

        The gays have the full weight and power of the modern American police state behind them–and they are still crying crocodile tears about being accepted.

        So who’s leaving who alone?

        1. You might have your head stuck up your ass, Mondo.

          Your use of the term ‘the gays’ reveals your lack of respect for gay people. Do they refer to themselves as ‘the gays’. When I call Christians Dumb Fundies “theotards” I’m using a derisive term to put them down. This is what you’re doing when you call gay people ‘the gays’. The difference is that dumb fundies aren’t a vulnerable minority. They’re a wealthy, powerful majority.

          Your naming them all as fabulous Hollywood types shows your stereotyping. Most often they’re just average people who are constantly pushed down. Your stereotypes are part of the problem. GLBTIQ people haven’t even won separate but equal, you’re just sick of hearing about a topic you’re not comfortable with.

          Arizona is trying to introduce a bill that allows GLBTIQ people to be discriminated against. Do you think that this wont spill over into other facets of society?

          Half of the country still doesn’t allow GLBTIQ marriage equality. Until sexuality and gender identity are non-issues why shouldn’t GLBTIQ people continue to fight?

    2. No, it’s more like anyone who actively and enthusiastically opposes something that has nothing to do with them is a piece of shit. Better pull out your marker and put that H on your shirt, Byren.

  2. Know what I hate? I hate people who use their hatred of the Bible and of God to justify their own perversion. If you want to be perverted at least have the honesty and courage to say, “I know it’s wrong but I’m going to do it anyway.”

    1. What an odd thing to say. I don’t hate your god. I simply don’t believe that your god exists. Do you hate leprechauns and hobbits? Why do you hate the Flying Spaghetti Monster so much?

      Why is being gay wrong? It is only wrong because the death cult that you are involved with says it is wrong. I don’t see anything about being gay as wrong.

      1. why would you call believing in God a death cult. My God and my Bible talks of Love. And Yes…it does say that homosexuality is wrong…but I also believe in a judgement day where we will ALL have to account for the wrongs we have done in life. Just because I am not gay doesn’t mean I don’t have a lot of stuff to answer for!

        1. Assuming you are talking about Christianity’s god:

          You are required to modify your behaviour in this life for reward after death.
          If a Christian dies defending your religion, they are rewarded after death.
          People who do not comply with your death cult’s rules are punished after death.
          The Jesus character in your death cult died for humanity’s sins.
          God tested Abraham’s faith by telling him to kill his son.
          Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
          Death! Death! Death! Death!

          You see the bible as a book of love because you only read the wishy washy bits. So you are filtering out the death cult aspects. You are filtering with your innate, evolved ethics not Christianity’s claimed supernaturally gifted religious morality.

          1. admin you are completely wrong. You have no clues as to what it is you are talking about. Obviously you are not a theologian and you do not have the knowledge to back up your opinion. Christians do more good than any other group on the planet.

            And you are confusing religious dogma with spirituality.

            Being a Christian and worshiping God has nothing to do with things of the flesh. It all deals with living a clean spiritual life free from carnal desire. That means limiting what could be considered harmful aspects of one’s life.

            It is not a death cult in the least. Christians celebrate life; not death. They are the opposite of a death cult…

            The bible in the Old Testament is used by Christians for correlation to prophecy that is later foretold in the New Testament. The Old Testament does not apply to them because they are not Jews and they do not live under Jewish law. Christ’s death assured them freedom from Mosaic law and tradition.

            “You are required to modify your behaviour in this life for reward after death.”

            You are required to modify sinful lifestyles that have nothing to do with your immortal spirit. That means to limit anything that hinders spiritual awakening. That doesn’t mean to modify yourself completely. That means to modify anything that distracts you from spiritual fulfillment. You can be a Christian and still enjoy the things of this world… in moderation.

            “If a Christian dies defending your religion, they are rewarded after death.”

            Bullshit! If a Christian dies and lived a good life, worked in good faith and loved God, he gains entrance into heaven. Dying in the name of Christianity will get you nowhere. Where is the hell did you read that nonsense? That is nowhere in the bible. Christians live by the new testament and willful violence of all kinds is considered a sin. Also dying in the name of God or religion does not get you granny points.

            “People who do not comply with your death cult’s rules are punished after death.” Wrong.

            People who do not live spiritual lives for God and love with an open heart are doomed to be punished by their own selfish desires. God doesn’t punish or condemn people. People condemn themselves to be punished by not living spiritual lives. God is love. He’s not forcing anyone to believe in him. sadly some of his followers think that is what he wants. God cannot interfere in matters pertaining to human freewill. That is why he gives the choices to follow or to not follow. What you choose is up to you.

            “The Jesus character in your death cult died for humanity’s sins.”

            Jesus was a real man and there is historical proof that he existed. Whether or not he was God manifested in the flesh is something to be skeptical about. He was as real a man as the Buddha and just as peace loving and wonderful. It is written (by men) that he died to save us all from spiritual deadening caused by living for things of a carnal nature. Carnality hinders the spirit from attaining enlightenment. This is something that goes beyond Christianity.

            “God tested Abraham’s faith by telling him to kill his son.”

            You have no idea about the differences between reality and metaphor. The story is allegorical like most fables in the bible.

            “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

            You took that out of context. Here is the the full set of scripture:

            “1 By the rivers of Babylon,
            There we sat down and wept,
            When we remembered Zion.

            2 Upon the willows in the midst of it
            We hung our harps.

            3 For there our captors demanded of us songs,
            And our tormentors mirth, saying,
            “Sing us one of the songs of Zion.”

            4 How can we sing the LORD’S song
            In a foreign land?

            5 If I forget you, O Jerusalem,
            May my right hand forget her skill.

            6 May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth
            If I do not remember you,
            If I do not exalt Jerusalem
            Above my chief joy.

            7 Remember, O LORD, against the sons of Edom
            The day of Jerusalem,
            Who said, “Raze it, raze it
            To its very foundation.”

            8 O daughter of Babylon, you devastated one,
            How blessed will be the one who repays you with the recompense with which you have repaid us.

            9 H ow blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones
            Against the rock.”

            The scripture is referring to a city and it’s residence that set themselves against Jerusalem and the Judeans. Babylon the great whore and her children. They destroyed Jerusalem and tried to destroy the 12 tribes of Judea and captured them. They tormented and killed many of them and this scripture relates to how the Judeans felt about Babylon and the Babylonians. They longed for home and they felt vengeful because of their captivity.

            I suggest learning a lot more about the bible before you start hurling scripture around like you have a clue.
            You need to just keep your thoughts to yourself and stop trying to belittle people’s beliefs. You have no idea what you are even going on about. You believe what you want and let everyone else do the same. It’s none of your business.

            Just like it’s no one’s business if other people want to be gay, transvestites etc. etc.

            1. What a long winded twat you are!

              admin you are completely wrong. You have no clues as to what it is you are talking about. Obviously you are not a theologian and you do not have the knowledge to back up your opinion. Christians do more good than any other group on the planet

              I think I’ll quote Hitchens here:
              ““well, yes, I have indeed heard it said that Hamas provides social services in Gaza”, And I’ve even heard it said that Farrakhan’s group gets young, black men in prison off drugs. I don’t know if it’s true, I’m willing to accept it might be but it doesn’t alter the fact that the one is a militarised, terrorist organisation with a fanatical anti-Semitic ideology, and the second is a racist, crackpot cult. And I have no doubt that Scientology gets people off drugs, too. But my insistence always with these people is if you will claim it for one, you must accept it for them all.”

              Read Wallace’s “The Purple Economy” so you can see that religious organisations take most of the tithe and blow it on swag for the priest/pastor. If there’s a few pennies left they might do something charitable.

              And you are confusing religious dogma with spirituality.

              I don’t believe I am. Quite the opposite, I believe that religion conflates spirituality with their dogma.

              Being a Christian and worshiping God has nothing to do with things of the flesh. It all deals with living a clean spiritual life free from carnal desire. That means limiting what could be considered harmful aspects of one’s life.

              It that’s what it’s all about, why does it make so little impact on it’s most ardent supporters? Why does the pedophile priest even exist if being steeped in religion allows you to live a clean life without surrendering to pleasures of the flesh. I have never believed in any god/s and have managed to live a monogamous life without raping any choir boys. I did it without effort!

              It is not a death cult in the least. Christians celebrate life; not death. They are the opposite of a death cult…

              Did you even read my comment? When will you be rewarded for all of your spiritual cleanliness? When you’re dead. How was the world repaired? Jesus’ death. How do you prove your love to god/s? Die in his service. That’s a death cult. Perhaps we are speaking at crossed purposes. How do you use the term?

              The bible in the Old Testament is used by Christians for correlation to prophecy that is later foretold in the New Testament. The Old Testament does not apply to them because they are not Jews and they do not live under Jewish law. Christ’s death assured them freedom from Mosaic law and tradition.

              You are using the term “Christian” as if it describes a monolithic set of ideas. My Christian neighbours do not agree with what you have just said. You will use the No True Scotsman logical fallacy now and claim that they aren’t true Christians. So it is impossible to have a discussion because you will just move the goal posts.

              “You are required to modify your behaviour in this life for reward after death.”

              You are required to modify sinful lifestyles that have nothing to do with your immortal spirit. That means to limit anything that hinders spiritual awakening. That doesn’t mean to modify yourself completely. That means to modify anything that distracts you from spiritual fulfillment. You can be a Christian and still enjoy the things of this world… in moderation.

              You are arguing my point here. You are saying that Christians have to limit certain behaviours. You are agreeing with me. Thank you.

              “If a Christian dies defending your religion, they are rewarded after death.”

              Bullshit! If a Christian dies and lived a good life, worked in good faith and loved God, he gains entrance into heaven. Dying in the name of Christianity will get you nowhere. Where is the hell did you read that nonsense? That is nowhere in the bible. Christians live by the new testament and willful violence of all kinds is considered a sin. Also dying in the name of God or religion does not get you granny points.

              So your version of Christianity doesn’t have martyrs. Again, you aren’t speaking for all of Christianity.

              “People who do not comply with your death cult’s rules are punished after death.” Wrong.

              People who do not live spiritual lives for God and love with an open heart are doomed to be punished by their own selfish desires. God doesn’t punish or condemn people. People condemn themselves to be punished by not living spiritual lives. God is love. He’s not forcing anyone to believe in him. sadly some of his followers think that is what he wants. God cannot interfere in matters pertaining to human freewill. That is why he gives the choices to follow or to not follow. What you choose is up to you.

              You need to argue these points with your fellow theists. When you agree on some cohesive system come back to me. Try not to start another holy war as a means to settling this theological mumbo jumbo.

              “The Jesus character in your death cult died for humanity’s sins.”

              Jesus was a real man and there is historical proof that he existed.

              Where? Never mentioned in Roman literature. Never mentioned in surviving documents from his era. I don’t believe that the person ever existed. You are making a positive claim so support it with references… and not to BS Christian apologetics books. Where’s the archaeological evidence? Someone who caused that much trouble should have left some evidence.

              Whether or not he was God manifested in the flesh is something to be skeptical about. He was as real a man as the Buddha and just as peace loving and wonderful. It is written (by men) that he died to save us all from spiritual deadening caused by living for things of a carnal nature. Carnality hinders the spirit from attaining enlightenment. This is something that goes beyond Christianity.

              If he wasn’t god manifested than it’s difficult to argue that the Jesus character in your bible existed. How fictional does a character have to be before we can say that this wasn’t the person discussed?

              “God tested Abraham’s faith by telling him to kill his son.”

              You have no idea about the differences between reality and metaphor. The story is allegorical like most fables in the bible.

              “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

              Anything abhorrent is allegory. Why don’t you argue that the prohibition on being gay and eating figs was an allegory?

              You took that out of context. Here is the the full set of scripture:

              “1 By the rivers of Babylon,
              There we sat down and wept,
              When we remembered Zion.

              2 Upon the willows in the midst of it
              We hung our harps.

              3 For there our captors demanded of us songs,
              And our tormentors mirth, saying,
              “Sing us one of the songs of Zion.”

              4 How can we sing the LORD’S song
              In a foreign land?

              5 If I forget you, O Jerusalem,
              May my right hand forget her skill.

              6 May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth
              If I do not remember you,
              If I do not exalt Jerusalem
              Above my chief joy.

              7 Remember, O LORD, against the sons of Edom
              The day of Jerusalem,
              Who said, “Raze it, raze it
              To its very foundation.”

              8 O daughter of Babylon, you devastated one,
              How blessed will be the one who repays you with the recompense with which you have repaid us.

              9 H ow blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones
              Against the rock.”

              The scripture is referring to a city and it’s residence that set themselves against Jerusalem and the Judeans. Babylon the great whore and her children. They destroyed Jerusalem and tried to destroy the 12 tribes of Judea and captured them. They tormented and killed many of them and this scripture relates to how the Judeans felt about Babylon and the Babylonians. They longed for home and they felt vengeful because of their captivity.

              Firstly, I want to point out that you are quoting your bible to an atheist. Has this ever worked? If I quote the Qoran to you will you become a Muslim? This is how you are reading this because you are uncomfortable with your god’s instructions to kill your own children.

              I’ve got a context for you to read this in: this was written by bronze age goat herders so deeply mired in ignorance that it can simply be ignored because it is laughably divorced from reality.

              I suggest learning a lot more about the bible before you start hurling scripture around like you have a clue.
              You need to just keep your thoughts to yourself and stop trying to belittle people’s beliefs. You have no idea what you are even going on about. You believe what you want and let everyone else do the same. It’s none of your business.

              Just like it’s no one’s business if other people want to be gay, transvestites etc. etc.

              It becomes my business when the human rights of people are infringed on because theology hobbyists lobby for discriminatory laws because they have “studied their bible”. It is a book full of self-contradictory nonsense.

    2. Do you follow Sharia Law, or do you think it’s ridiculous bullshit? Because that’s what we think of your silly cult and its bigoted ways. We couldn’t give a fuck if you think gay people are doing anything wrong, so save your breath. Fuck off, and keep your shitty beliefs in your home and in your churches, because nobody is listening to you but the other assholes.

  3. Uhm, well if you’re religious (Christian) I believe you should familiarize your self with the bible; I am referencing Luke 6:37. I finding hilarious how many Christians choose to only learn the hatefull side of their own religion. Why does it matter if homosexuals get married? It, in no way effects your life! Stop trying to micro manage everything. And what are they suppose to be unhappy and alone because of who they are? The only reason homosexuals shouldnt be aloud to get married would be that it will end the world! Considering gay sex has been going on since the ancient Greeks. Im gonna go out on a limb and say that putting a ring around their fingers and giving them the same tax benifits as straight couples isn’t goning to be the tipping point. So get over you anxiety and let people live their own life. Please =^)

    1. Marriage defined:The formal union of a man and a woman, typically recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife. I don’t care if people of the same sex wants to be with each other but to try and CHANGE the definition of what something is to suit or manipulate what it is meant to stand for to try and force their own justification of what something should be is wrong ..and not once have I felt the need to make it my personal mission or found it necessary to tell everyone I meet that I’m heterosexual like most gays I meet do…I’m all for equal rights but from all I see it’s not equal but special rights the gay community wants

      1. Formal union/husband and wife: That’s today’s definition of marriage. This has not always been the definition of marriage. This definition has been changed and manipulated before, it will be changed and manipulated again.

        The church is always changing the definition of marriage. Wives used to pledge to honour and obey. Husbands were totally in charge. Now most marriages are equal partnerships. Inter racial marriages were illegal. African Americans didn’t get married when they were slaves, they were mated like livestock and used for sex by their owners.

        “I don’t care if people of the same sex want[s] to be with each other…” and “… there own justification of something should be is wrong.” are mutually exclusive statements. Just admit it. You hate gay people. It’s OK to admit it. You don’t want my respect so you wont care that you’ve lost it.

        You have just come onto a board to tell everyone you don’t like same sex marriage… pot… kettle?

        The same rights are not special rights. If you don’t want to marry someone of the same sex you wont have to. Marriage equality is not going to interfere with your rights in any way. I’m afraid you’re just going to have to find someone else to hate.

        Thanks for dropping by. Try not to make a habit of it. The last thing the world needs is more homophobic rants. :)

  4. Well said Henry. If “thou shalt not judge” were observed by so-called “Christians”, then they’d focus on their own sins and hypocrisy and get out of the private lives of others! The reality is, most people that claim to be Christian care nothing about upholding true Christian values in their own lives.

    1. A Christian friend says that when he reads his bible and it says Thou Shalt- or Thou Shalt Not- he thinks of God telling him what to do.

      He doesn’t see it as permission to go Thou Shalt- or Thou Shalt Not- crusading at others.

  5. Homosexuality is unnatural and does not produce new life. It is decadent and destructive and not something you’re just “born with”. If animals do it and we think that’s “natural” and “ok”, then why don’t we eat each other after copulating like praying mantises do? Humans aren’t animals and we have only been too much of cowards to OPPOSE the perversion of homosexuality.

    1. Oh Paul, homosexuality is completely natural for HOMOSEXUALS. If you really think people just have sex to “produce new life” you are living in a closet of your own making. Your understanding of the natural world is very narrow and apparently chock-full of bizarre misconceptions. The only living things we know of fall more-or-less into the animal or vegetable categories. Now I know I don’t photosynthesize and I don’t want to say you have a turnip for a brain but that’s mostly because it would be an insult to tubers everywhere.

  6. I am amused by everyone bashing on each other try to prove who is right and who is wrong. It’s not a matter of right or wrong, or of this religion says this or that religion says that. This is about Human Beings being able to make their own decisions based on their own personal beliefs and not letting a government control what they do with their lives. History proves that Humans have always had some sort of homosexuality in society which used to be celebrated or at least acknowledged and not forced to hide behind a door.

    1. Absolutely!! There is no right and wrong opinion on this, I believe in the right to same sex marriage simply because I believe that all people should have the same right to it. I also think that religion or any kind and state should be separate. I live in the UK and have noticed how differently Religion is talked about, especially by public officials and those in democratic position. A persons opinion should be based on their own experiences and knowledge and should always be that persons responsibility. When you hid behind any kind of doctrine and let it, completely, form your opinions all you are doing is dis-empowering yourself and walking into foolishness. I am not saying being homophobic is wrong I am just saying fully form your own opinion about why you think its wrong based on more than just what you interpret the bible to say and then perhaps you could even embrace and learn about what you fear. Having grown up surround by my parents group of friends (including a mish mash of humanity) and getting to know their gay and lesbian friends I never had that fear. To me homosexulity has never been scary but then again neither has getting my hair cut.
      “Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.” Leviticus 19:27

      1. just to clarify I am asking people who are homophobic to question why they are not people who hate homophobes… though really they are two sides of the same coin. Hating is never good either way.

  7. Homosexuality being any non procreative act of intimacy. So next time you kiss your child tonight (assuming you don’t plan to procreate) think of how homosexual you and every decent parent actually is.

  8. Passing moral judgement on something inevitable and harmless is a foolish waste of time and smacks of indoctrination. Telling people what to think is far more evil than a sexual preference.

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